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PostSubject: Which One Would You Choose?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:43 am

The inside of the main cabin of the sloop is much larger. The v birth is a little longer. The cockpit is longer, by quite a bit. The mast is 30' on the sloop, and 27.5' on the Aft Cabin. Sloop has a high dollar roller furler.
Dark blue hulls are pretty rare around these parts, and it looks nice on the docks.

Everything is original on the Aft Cabin sailboat, and the sloop is cobbled.

Aft cabin has wheel helm, and a serviceable Yanmar diesel engine. Mind you, all the items on one boat can be moved, but at what cost?

The plan is this:

tall mast and roller furler moved to Sugar Bee

Sugar Bee wet sanded and polished (Blue spot showing through is a test patch we did)

Sugar Bee kept at slip, and Wondering Wallace kept on mooring ball, for sale.




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PostSubject: Re: Which One Would You Choose?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:01 pm

I think you'll just have to take em both out and sail em till you decide which one "fits". I think it would be a tough call if the sloop also had a Yanny. Never thought I would like the center cockpit but the more I look at those pictures of Sugar Bee the more I like it.

For one thing it should be a drier ride in big seas. I spoke w/ a guy who sailed his CM Sloop in the Gulf of Mexico who told me that the Clipper bow sliced nicely but had more potential to splash the helmsman in larger waves. No personal experience w/ this yet.

It would be very cool to take them out side by side and compare in in those conditions or just a variety of conditions. You have an unique opportunity for sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Which One Would You Choose?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:05 pm

One person says the mizzen sail only helps tack, and another person says it makes for a fast boat.

I go by how something looks as much as how it performs (Maybe that is how I stayed married! lol)

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PostSubject: Re: Which One Would You Choose?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:14 pm

Again no personal experience but I have read many people say that it also balances the boat nicely.

Also the redundency/safety factor should you lose a mast. As long as they are not connected by a triatic stay.

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PostSubject: Re: Which One Would You Choose?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:22 pm

I think boats hold an interesting place in the CM history books.

Do you know which one came first?

I am guessing the aft cabin came first, then the sloop? I am also guessing they quit making the aft cabin to make the sloop.

Know anything on that?

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PostSubject: Re: Which One Would You Choose?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:49 am

Not sure which came first, I would guess the sloop. Only because they were already making smaller sloops so it would seem a logical next step. Then step up to the aft-cabin ketches.

This is where it would be nice to have Greg chime in. He knows more about the cronology of these boats than anyone. I hope that he someday makes his research available to us in more than piece meal observations that are soon buried.

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