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 Clipper 21 - how much wear & tear is acceptable

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ohmmoose
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PostSubject: Clipper 21 - how much wear & tear is acceptable   Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:06 am

So, there's a guy here in town that has a used 21 for sale, on a trailer. I'm not sure if I should even consider this boat.

I have a (please don't laugh!) Sunfish that I've been learning to sail on for two years and want to get a small cruiser as my first "big girls" boat. Not sure if this one is even worth considering...

On the plus side, the hull from the waterline down looks good. I don't see any signs of damage, don't feel any soft spots, no cracking, etc. Above the water line, she's been stored outside and is filthy.

The teak is very weathered - gray, grain is risen, hasn't been taken care of. The trim doesn't feel soft, I THINK I might be able to get it back into shape.

The cabin is filthy but I'm not afraid of a little dirt and work to get it back into shape.

What scares me is the keel. it's badly rusted. At what point is a keep no longer fixable? I should have taken pictures. from what I can see of the keel, it has eroded (corroded?) in many places at least 1/4" deep. If the keel needs to be replaced, is this even an option or is it time to look at a different boat.

I'm really liking the idea of a swing keel as I can trailer/store it much more easily than a fixed keel. I like the size as I feel that this size boat is something that I can handle on my own and learn on.
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PostSubject: Re: Clipper 21 - how much wear & tear is acceptable   Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:30 pm

Hi,
Depend where are you gonna be sailing. If it is in a lake, you probably gonna be fine.

If the area where the keel is bolted is ok, i don't thing the rest is gonna be a problem. it is just the weight that matters. If you push your boat too hard I bet there will be something else that will break before the keel.

Make sure you don't pay too much for a boat like that, if you have to do so much to put it back in the water.

Good luck
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PostSubject: Re: Clipper 21 - how much wear & tear is acceptable   Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:51 pm

I just got a clipper 21, and am working on the keel now. I will be posting more pictures of the project. Sounds like we have similar areas of concern. Mine was clean on the outside but a total mess inside. Its going to be a project for some time to come, but the boat itself seems to be in good shape and so are the sails and rigging.

Godd luck, Russ
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PostSubject: Re: Clipper 21 - how much wear & tear is acceptable   Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:50 pm

ohmmoose

I think that the keel is important piece for not only sailing but re-sale. Keep in mind that replacing the keel is expensive unless you find a good second hand donor or know a person that works in the steel business. Personally I think that if the boat is in good shape and the price is low (real low) then you might want to get it.

Perhaps if the boat is priced low enough and you can easily afford it then go for it. Just don't kick you self later when the keel falls off.

Its a tough call in my opinion.

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