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PostSubject: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:28 am

Lets go over the list

Before I ever purchased or even sailed a Clipper Marine sailboat, I started this web site.

Before I purchased or even sailed a Clipper Marine sailboat, I sought out every forum on the Internet and challenged negative and unwarranted attacks on Clipper Marine.

To prove my loyalty to the brand, I not only purchased a a Clipper Marine, never having sailed one, I purchased TWO of the largest ones made, sight unseen!

To further prove my loyalty to Clipper Marine, I got a puppy and named it after my Clipper Marine sailboat, Sugar Bee.

Some still say I have not proven my dedication to Clipper Marine enough. To those people I say, does this prove it?

Today I purchased an AKC Maltese puppy, drove out and back across two states, and guess what his name is?

Clipper Marine. Or Clipper for short.

If that does not prove my love of the brand, nothing will.

Pics tomorrow. Can't post pics here from my iPhone.

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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:37 am

Next week I switch to an android phone, an LG Intuition. That should solve posting issues from my smartphone.

iPhones do some (limited ) things quite well. Some things, not so good.

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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:00 am

Congrats on the new addition to the family!! Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:46 am

He looks like a fuzzy house slipper when he sleeps on the floor. Not had his first haircut yet. Maltese do not have dog hair like we usually see, this stuff is more like human hair. Does not shed and most people that are illergic to dogs are fine with a Maltese.

My wife is fine with "Clipper" because she cuts their hair. She is not sailboat gungho like I am.

Clipper slept all night. No crying. Slept close to me on the floor. Afraid he would fall off

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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:11 am

Don't hurt yourself patting your own back. Rolling Eyes

Don't forget the boat you are chopping up and tossing out.
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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:02 pm

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Don't hurt yourself patting your own back. Rolling Eyes

Don't forget the boat you are chopping up and tossing out.



It was offered to you, not up to a challenge?



The post has humor in it, look between the lines.

Wondering Wallace was a pitiful sight when I purchased her. The owner was starting to gut her already because he had been unable to get anyone interested in her.

At great effort and modest expense I purchased her and brought home to find she was a basket case. I am recycling parts off her to put on other CM's. that is the best anyone could hope for on such a far gone boat.

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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:04 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:36 pm

Well I'm not exactly out trying to save Clippers and the last thing I need is another project. It would be more desirable if it had a mast. But you already know how I feel on that subject so I'll let it go and keep it to myself in the future.

If I were truly interested in upgrading I would probably go for something like this:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=2499951&ybw=&units=Feet¤cy=USD&access=Public&listing_id=75484&url=

I can't say I have ever seen a nicer CM30.
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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:48 pm

Look at any other 32 ketch and look at the mast lengths. My ketch is in serious need of taller masts. I purchased the sloop first to look her over good only to determin she was too far gone to restore. Then purchased another CM, ketch with a 20' mizzen. 20' is not a serious mizzen, that is a minor league flagpole.

It all fits logic to blend the two boats into something much better than before.

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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:54 pm

Clipper's first day with us went well. He started the day out being barely able to walk because he is so young, legs not developed for walking on slick floors, and by the end of the day playing with Sugar Bee, Clipper is now almost running. He covered the whole area in my photo studio many times.

Fun to watch the dogs play.

Went to petsmart and spent 40 bucks on puppy food. Ouch! Lol

Got him a dog tag with his name and contact information.


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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:54 am

That CM30 is very clean! The price is outrageous. It will never sell for anything remotely close to that.

Any boat, once it gets to a certain price point, it could have gold appointments and it would not up the sale price.

Super nice to see such a well cared for Clipper Marine. Sweet!

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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:11 am

It is pretty amazing. The price is high but still less than half of any other 30 foot boat in the area. I like most of the upgrades except the mast steps mounted to the rudder. An alteration like that will effect steering more than I think he realizes.

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Look at any other 32 ketch and look at the mast lengths.
My ketch is in serious need of taller masts. I purchased the sloop
first to look her over good only to determin she was too far gone to
restore. Then purchased another CM, ketch with a 20' mizzen. 20' is
not a serious mizzen, that is a minor league flagpole.

It all fits logic to blend the two boats into something much better than before.

Other 32 foot ketch sailboats are not trailerable and have much more ballast allowing them to carry more sail area. Your shorter masts carry just as much sail as your ballast will allow safely. Bill Crealock wouldn't steer you wrong.

I'll be surprised if your boat will still have a balanced helm after your intended upgrade. Lee helm is dangerous and has been the cause of some serious trouble for inexperienced sailors. Add that to the ratio of sail area to ballast you are proposing and I think you are destined for a capsize and playing with fire.

Be careful out there and have your guests wear their life jackets.
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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:17 am

At a minimum, I would have the USCG do an inspection to your upgrade. Or call/write them with your modification, proposed increased to sail area along with your boat size, ballast, total weight and beam. They should let you know if you are within the realms of reasonable safety standards. I could just be a safety nut and overly concerned.
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PostSubject: Re: Does This Show Commitment Or What?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:07 pm

I have a history of pushing limits on build projects, this project is less grandiose than past ones. The bike has taken me over 200MPH and the truck has 90,000 miles on it.

I will be working with the N.A. that took over Clealock's designs. I will be reefing when the wind is above light winds. Winds on my lake average 5 MPH.



If the people using the steps on the CM30 are small, lets say teens swimming around the boat, I think the mast steps are rather innovative. They would not work for me. lol



If they extend into the water, I wonder what they do to sailing performance? Not appreciable I would imagine. The pressures exerted on the large rudder of this size in hard turns under speed, would exceed pressures of the downward weight of a 200 pound man. If the rudder would break under the weight of a man, the rudder needs replacing anyway. The hardware is more than sufficient to hold the weight. I would copy this idea, if I were not sugar scooping my stern.






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