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PostSubject: I'm having a hell of a time...   Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:37 am

I acquired a 1976 CM32 recently and I am very happy with her. She's very clean (inside and out) newer sails, new rigging, hull is in good condition, etc. The only thing wrong with her is the broken strut. (Yes, broken. Bent and snapped) I knew this at the time I got her and working in the automotive world for so long, I didn't think it would be so hard to find. Well, it's not in the automotive world. Boats are different, so I have learned. I cannot for the life me, find a shaft strut for a CM32. It's almost become like the search for the Holy Grail. (Now, that I have finished with my sob story) Does anyone have any ideas, or the strut itself!? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:59 am

Welcome Lulu, glad you found us. Cool

I can't offer any help in your quest other than to suggest a good machine shop to Fab a new one.

Please check in frequently and give us updates. Oh and pics of coarse. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:05 pm

Hi Everett,
Thanks for your reply. I have thought (well, with the help of a friend) to have one fabricated. The problem with that is, I need dimensions, measurements etc and if possible, a picture. I'm a picture girl. Pictures say a thousand words, right? I thought I found my strut on Ebay but apparently the angle was wrong. Everett, do you know? I'd be your best friend Smile
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:19 pm



Welcome!

Maybe these will help?






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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:21 pm

I will keep looking to see if I have any more detailed pics.



My boat (sister to yours) is in the water, so no good trying to get pics or measurements. My 32 sloop, may not be the same con fig, and that part is already missing, as the PO removed engine.

If the parts were the same, ????, Everett is your best bet.

I would bet it is an off the shelf universal part. Look at the adjustments nuts close to the hull.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:04 pm

http://wbluther-na.com/CREALOCK_LEGACY.html



This guy has the information you seek. He is going to charge you for his time, but he can look up the part number and the manufacturer, I am pretty sure.



WILLIAM B. LUTHER
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2182 So. El Camino Real, Suite 105
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Office phone: 760-435-9680 Cell phone: 760-505-3444
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He is less than 40 miles from you! Sweet!

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:12 pm

I will take a couple of pics in the morning and post. Not sure if it will help but hope so.


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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:31 am

Do you think the aft cockpit and the aft cabin are the same hardware on the propeller shaft? Some things are heavier duty on the aft cockpit. It is also a newer design by a year or so, seems to me from my studies. Be interesting to see if the images are similar.

Any machine shop could make one in a heartbeat if they had her boat to work from.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:05 am

Gary, the pics you posted, are they all of the aft cabin model? They are all definitely more robust than my sloop. Also the angles look greater. Still dark here so no pics yet.

Lulu, do you have the sloop or aft cabin model?

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:24 pm

I have the aft cabin model. (Which I like to call the "after berth") Does the strut differ between the sloop and aft cabin models?
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:43 pm





This may not help since you have the aft but here they are.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:39 pm

YES! That's it! Thank you, thank you gentlemen! I love you I hope this will help. I will let you all know.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:06 pm

Interesting to note, the two different boats, also have different parts. Mine is adjustable (leaving me to wonder if mine is an aftermarket one, being replaced along the years)

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:15 pm

Everett CM32 wrote:
Gary, the pics you posted, are they all of the aft cabin model? They are all definitely more robust than my sloop. Also the angles look greater. Still dark here so no pics yet.

Yes, the aft cabin model. I was unable to find any good pics of a aft cockpit model till you posted yours.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:55 pm

Is it possible that the strut in the first picture is aftermarket and the strut in Everett's picture are stock? My strut is definitely not as bulky as the first ones Gary posted but identical the ones Everett posted.
I think it's time I take a picture to show you guys what mine now currently looks like. I'll make sure to do it when I get home.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:31 pm

Part of my bulk is crud I had not cleaned off before these pics were taken. The circle shape in the center is Zinc to protect other metals. The 2 nuts / bolts are angle adjustments that make me feel it is a universal replacement of some kind.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:36 pm

Hi guys, sorry for the late response. Here's a picture of what I have left of my shaft strut. This was not my doing haha
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:53 pm

okay so I can't seem to get it to upload. So try this:
http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/17/73/60/74/jeanni12.jpg



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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:57 pm

Holy chihuahuas, did they hit it w/ a fork lift??!! Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:59 pm

I have an owners manual for all of the clippers. It shows part number 608 in the book, but does not give an measurements. It does show that the angle of the shaft reference the hull is 12 dgrees and there is 1 1/4 inch minimum clearance for the prop.

I would think you could find someone in San Diego that could build one out of aluminum and bush it or add bearings based on the angle and shaft size.

If you had to you could shim the mounting plate at the hull to get everything lined up.

You may also drive up to Santa Anna and see if you can find anything in the area about the company. You may be able to track down some blue prints.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:30 pm

Ouch!

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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:15 am

ha! That's what happens when one lets lines hang carelessly in the water. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: I'm having a hell of a time...   Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:21 am

Mr. Retired1, thank you for you information! Greatly appreciated. I have my owners manual too however, it seems it's gotten wet over the years and much of it isn't readable.
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