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PostSubject: Maybe I Would Rather Have This?   Maybe I Would Rather Have This? EmptyThu Apr 05, 2012 1:06 am

http://www.sailingtexas.com/shunter310103.html

Let's see, beam is 10'10". wOW! So much more room, o wait, can't take it down the highway or public streets without special permits. Bummer

Man o man, look at that helm!

Man o man look at that modern styling

Man o man, 47,000 dollars! Bummer

O wait, I don't need special permits, because it ain't got no trailer with it anyway!

Let's see, what would a specialty trailer cost for a 10' 10" beam 32' sailboat?

A figure that sounds like the national debt numbers, so high, most people hire to have boats like this moved. Few hundred miles? Maybe seven grand. Few thousand miles? Go ahead and buy the trailer, then pay someone $200 a month to store that big sucker for you. And you are not moving that with a pic up truck. Nope. Semi. Dot drivers, and on and on and on and on.

(I own a semi, but that is another story)

What are wealthy people thinking today?

I am thinking stay around 8 to 8.5' for a beam, so it can be easily transported, unless you purchase your boat in the local you are going to be using them in.

Let's see, take 47,000 and subtract the 7,000 or so I have in two 32 foot sailbots, with two trailers, 12 sails, two autopilots, gps's, and tons of other gear and perks, and while that big bad hunter is a real sweet boat, with a killer helm, while I am sailing my sailboats with my plainer helm on one boat, and rudder / tiller on the other, I will have 40,000 grand stuffed into my front pockets, sailing the same winds, feeling the same spray, and getting the same sunburn. I will get a better sunburn, because I will have more time on my boats, and less time in the business trying to figure out how to pay for my boat.

The real beauty of a Clipper Marine, is what they have, and also what they don't have.


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PostSubject: Re: Maybe I Would Rather Have This?   Maybe I Would Rather Have This? EmptyThu Apr 05, 2012 1:35 am

Taking this a step forward, do you know What the average price of a used 32 foot sailboat in the USA is?

The national average is over $75,000 for a used 32 foot sailboat.

Now mind you, most of those are not only coastal water boats, but includes some blue water boats. Remember, it may not be the best judgment to sail around the world on any 32 foot long sailboat, some are built for heavy weather that the ocean can throw at a boat, better than others. Generally speaking, 32 foot boats are coastal waters, and large lakes.

Personally, I would not sail any Clipper Marine into deep water, but lots of people do. My 32 shoal spent 7 months on the gulf of Mexico in all types of weather with a master seaman.

Still, 75 thousand dollars. That is house money. That is medical school ( one year at least)

I would encourage anyone thinking about larger boats, to look at some of the older sailboats still available. Many good boats of vintage are still in their prime, and you do not need to rob a bank to afford one (or two)
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe I Would Rather Have This?   Maybe I Would Rather Have This? EmptyThu Apr 05, 2012 2:19 am

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The real beauty of a Clipper Marine, is what they have, and also what they don't have.

They have elegant lines, they have unique character, and above all a style of their own. That's not to say that other boats aren't just as nice or nicer, it just in a different way. The Clipper Marines were designed for the average man, or woman, to be able to afford and enjoy sailing. Believe me, if it weren't for some sweet deals this gal wouldn't be enjoying this hobby and chatting with all of you fine people.

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Personally, I would not sail any Clipper Marine into deep water,

I guess that depends on your definition of deep water. I plan on doing some sailing on the Great Lakes and they are pretty deep. I also want to run from San Diego to Catalina, but that would be as part of a group, not solo (anyone up for a run in a year or so). Now, would I take a Clipper across the Atlantic or Pacific, not in this lifetime. I may be crazy but I don't have "I'm Stupid" tattooed anywhere (no offense Gary). Now I do know that there are several of the CM fleet in Hawaii, not sure how they got there, and then there's Rock Star in Hungary (that is a sweet rebuild of a CM26).

All in all, for a boat style, or manufacture of boats, that's looked down on by a lot of sailors, I like my CM26 and I'm sure I'll really enjoy owning a CM30.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe I Would Rather Have This?   Maybe I Would Rather Have This? EmptyThu Apr 05, 2012 1:29 pm

For deep water, a larger boat would be ideal, like the 37 foot boat William is famous for building. That boat is in the sailing hall of fame. (but then again, so is the Mac 25 I sold, and I would not sail that around the world. )

The great lakes has some pretty violent storms, that will sink any boat given the right conditions. I seem to remember a song.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe I Would Rather Have This?   Maybe I Would Rather Have This? EmptyThu Apr 05, 2012 8:41 pm

Right away I see a couple of things that would comparably make our CM32 more seaworthy than that Hunter if you did in fact head for big water. Yes, I am well aware that neither was designed for the deep blue, I'm just saying....

Penny, I would like to hear more of your plans on the Great Lakes.
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