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Everett CM32 Lifetime Member
Posts : 447 Sailboat : CM32 Aft Cockpit Join date : 2011-12-28 Job/hobbies : Nuclear Nomad
| Subject: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:00 pm | |
| Here's what ours looks like. Will be adding more rivets and the trim track will have SS screws long enough to tie the hull and deck together also. | |
| | | Gary Admin
Posts : 1310 Sailboat : Pair CM 32's Aft Cabin Ketch & Aft Cockpit Birthday : 1956-10-17 Join date : 2011-12-28 Age : 68 Job/hobbies : Artist
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:14 pm | |
| I am not a construction expert, but I would have hoped to see more than an occasional pop rivet. I had read that is how they are fastened together, but I had hopped for something more on the Blue water CM's.
Do you have a larger area photograph of this, so I can see what it is I am looking at? | |
| | | Everett CM32 Lifetime Member
Posts : 447 Sailboat : CM32 Aft Cockpit Join date : 2011-12-28 Job/hobbies : Nuclear Nomad
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:54 am | |
| That's the only pic I have right now. It was the best I could get while holding the track out and balancing on top of a step ladder.
We are holed up at Key Lime Sailing Club for a few days while April heals a bit from Bariatric surgery. When we get back to the boatyard I will get more pics.
I too had hoped to find better fasteners but am not really surprised. I think there are more boats built this way than we know. In the yard we are by a 26'ish power boat that is missing the trim showing that it is the same. I'll post pics of that too. | |
| | | Gary Admin
Posts : 1310 Sailboat : Pair CM 32's Aft Cabin Ketch & Aft Cockpit Birthday : 1956-10-17 Join date : 2011-12-28 Age : 68 Job/hobbies : Artist
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:37 pm | |
| Best of luck with the surgery!
I have read the boats are one piece, like a gallon water bottle, but that does not look the case, does it?
Do you think some sort of welding / gluing took place, and the rivets are just used to set up the bond?
On our lake this summer, a Catalina 27 was popped in two pieces, top went flying off, when a speed boat struck them.
Catalina's are known to be pretty solid boats, yet that happened. | |
| | | Everett CM32 Lifetime Member
Posts : 447 Sailboat : CM32 Aft Cockpit Join date : 2011-12-28 Job/hobbies : Nuclear Nomad
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:13 pm | |
| Been a week since the surgery and she is doing well, thanks. Walking about 2 miles a day, sick of liquid diet for three weeks now.
The lip on the inside around the seam is thick and tall. Not sure how it ties into the hull on the inside yet. It would be nice if the rivets were just to tack it in place while they glassed the inside seam. I will be right back into the project in a few days.
It would be easy enough to glass the outside of the seam. I may do that someday but not now. Too much else on list.
If the Catalinas are built the same I'm willing to bet quite a few other production boats are/were also. Avoid beam on waves and speedboats eh? | |
| | | Everett CM32 Lifetime Member
Posts : 447 Sailboat : CM32 Aft Cockpit Join date : 2011-12-28 Job/hobbies : Nuclear Nomad
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:31 pm | |
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| | | Gary Admin
Posts : 1310 Sailboat : Pair CM 32's Aft Cabin Ketch & Aft Cockpit Birthday : 1956-10-17 Join date : 2011-12-28 Age : 68 Job/hobbies : Artist
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:38 pm | |
| I have read somewhere the CM's are one piece, like a Clorox bottle. While that does not seem the case, of they are two pieces welded together with the correct epoxy, it would be in fact, one piece.
I know W.I.B. Crealock is quoted as saying he was very proud of Clipper Marine. It would seem hard to be proud of a boat with a simple pop rivet seam. I would believe it is welded , but that could be a wishful thought. | |
| | | EL QUAPO Posting Member
Posts : 15 Sailboat : SANITARIUM 1973 cm26 Birthday : 1963-09-29 Join date : 2012-09-13 Age : 61 Job/hobbies : truck driver/rancher
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:57 pm | |
| I hate to say it but when gelcoat jim did my boat the top cap came off no problem,that is to say after removing the rivets.The rivets were replaced WITH ss screws,if there was a bonding agent glueing the top cap down it deteriated long ago.Glassing the top cap down on the inside seems like a good idea to me maybe that was done after the factory on your boat | |
| | | Everett CM32 Lifetime Member
Posts : 447 Sailboat : CM32 Aft Cockpit Join date : 2011-12-28 Job/hobbies : Nuclear Nomad
| Subject: Re: CM 32 Deck to Hull Joint Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:31 pm | |
| You've had your top off??!! Would love to have seen that!!
I drilled out the rivets that held the trim track on and am using SS screws to hold the track on as well as to add more holding to the joint. But after drilling out and running the screws in there is no debris inside and no screws coming through.
I would like to see pics of everyone's inside joint areas. I will get some of ours and post tomorrow when my running is done. I wonder if it is done differently on various sizes? | |
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