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tlsallada Lifetime Member
Posts : 112 Sailboat : CM 26 Birthday : 1952-03-16 Join date : 2013-01-25 Age : 72 Job/hobbies : Telecommunications/Security/IT - Hobby Music
| Subject: Rigging diagram wanted Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:33 pm | |
| I have a box with all the rigging and a naked mast - I know the two go together but don't know what- goes -where. Does anyone happen to have a clear diagram of how and where the rigging attaches to the mast and connections on the boat ? The diagram here on this website just isn't very clear and doesn't help me too much. I've tried also some of the various photos but most do not show the top of the mast and the boat at the same time.
Thanks in advance for any help!!
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frelichth Lifetime Member
Posts : 113 Sailboat : Clipper Birthday : 1959-02-21 Join date : 2012-06-14 Age : 65
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:11 pm | |
| Start with the Clipper Marine manual link at the bottom of the page here. In the back of the manual is all of the specs for all of the Clippers. You will find all of the shroud and stay lengths listed there. Measure the eye to eye lengths of all of the rigging and get them sorted out and marked. After that I can send you closeup pix of my rig and descriptions as necessary to get you rigged up. Hope that helps.
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tlsallada Lifetime Member
Posts : 112 Sailboat : CM 26 Birthday : 1952-03-16 Join date : 2013-01-25 Age : 72 Job/hobbies : Telecommunications/Security/IT - Hobby Music
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:00 pm | |
| Okay I got them measured and marked - It would be great if you could point me to a diagram of which length goes where on the boat!! Thanks again for helping out this newby!!
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frelichth Lifetime Member
Posts : 113 Sailboat : Clipper Birthday : 1959-02-21 Join date : 2012-06-14 Age : 65
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:12 pm | |
| OK, Here goes. I'll start with a couple of basic diagrams and then show pix of corresponding parts on a CM26. Basic end view Basic side view Now for the cross reference: The upper shrouds connect a the masthead on each side. The cable in the center is the upper shroud. The upper and lower cables are the fore and aft stays. The lower part of the upper shroud connects to the middle chainplate. Make sure you have toggles on the turnbuckles at the chainplates to avoid inducing lateral forces on the gear. The middle of the upper shroud is captured by the spreader tip and holds it out. Spreader tip on deck with mast down. The lower shrouds attach fore and aft at the chainplates and just below the spreaders there is the upper attachment points. The longer pair of stays goes aft. The lower shroud plates are to the right of the spreaders. The rear stay attaches to the rear of the masthead with a toggle and at the rear of the boat at the chainplate. Masthead, lower connection is rear stay. Lower chainplate, note adjustable anchor plate. The forward stay also connects to the masthead and goes to the forward chainplate. Upper masthead mounting with toggle. Pointing up. The lower chainplate. Attach the forward shroud here at the foremost hole as to allow for attachment of the headsail tack (forecorner). That covers the standing rigging. Forgive the photos as she is still under tarp for storage and I just pulled them back to get photos. Hope it clears it up enough for you to get her rigged. Terry
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tlsallada Lifetime Member
Posts : 112 Sailboat : CM 26 Birthday : 1952-03-16 Join date : 2013-01-25 Age : 72 Job/hobbies : Telecommunications/Security/IT - Hobby Music
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:39 pm | |
| WOW !! I really appreciate all the trouble you went to to capture those photos!! That helps a lot. Can I ask what book the photos were taken from??
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Gary Admin
Posts : 1310 Sailboat : Pair CM 32's Aft Cabin Ketch & Aft Cockpit Birthday : 1956-10-17 Join date : 2011-12-28 Age : 68 Job/hobbies : Artist
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:04 am | |
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Tiny Dancer Lifetime Member
Posts : 80 Sailboat : 1971 Clipper Marine 21 Birthday : 1961-02-06 Join date : 2013-02-28 Age : 63 Job/hobbies : Small business owner/Tile installer Sailing
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:09 pm | |
| Nice! | |
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Venture Crew 2747 Posting Member
Posts : 1 Sailboat : Clipper CM26 Join date : 2013-04-14
| Subject: I would like to add to this discussion? Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:27 pm | |
| Howdy! I am a BSA Venture Crew Associate Advisor (fancy name for a fool with too much time on is hands). Venturing is a coed group of high school age youth. Our aim is to take the BSA teachings to young men and women, hopefully, help strenghten the moral character of these youth...(repeat after me....herding cats). Anyhow, some kind soul donated a CM26 to our youth, and we are struggling to come to grips with the details of what we have gotten ourselves into. This past weekend we took it to the lake with one of the "gifters" to make sure she was water worthy. I am happy to say there were no leaks, but, there were questions about raising the mast. The "gifter" that was with us, was unsure where all the cabling went, and he was not too terribly sure that it was all present, hence the reason I found this nifty forum. I read with interest the entire topic, and downloaded the manual that is located at the bottom of the page, but I am interested in another manual, that some pictures were taken from - FRELICHTH posted some pictures of a manual, and I could certainly see that manual helping us in our quest to understand this boat. Can I get the name of that manual? I have been poking around the web, but, the only thing I have been able to locate is the manual, that I have already retreived from the link below. This next weekend, I wll take a printed copy of the manual and try to stage the mast and sails, and would like to be able to include the above mentioned book/manual in my materials.....your help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance for the info! | |
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frelichth Lifetime Member
Posts : 113 Sailboat : Clipper Birthday : 1959-02-21 Join date : 2012-06-14 Age : 65
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:18 pm | |
| I've got the rig up right now and will be posting pix in a couple of days, including closeups of the rigging details. Please stand by . | |
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tlsallada Lifetime Member
Posts : 112 Sailboat : CM 26 Birthday : 1952-03-16 Join date : 2013-01-25 Age : 72 Job/hobbies : Telecommunications/Security/IT - Hobby Music
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:10 pm | |
| Boy, am I glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't know what he's doing!! I'm working on just getting the terminology correct of what all the components are called. Who the heck made up all these terms anyway?? terry | |
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Triticum Lifetime Member
Posts : 167 Sailboat : Clipper Marine 26 Join date : 2012-10-27 Job/hobbies : IT
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:29 pm | |
| We also ought to do a mast raising series. Does the donated ship have a bipod with a pully at the top, about 8' long? If so, it is used to raise the mast. I've made a couple of minor mods and I can now raise the mast by myself. | |
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tlsallada Lifetime Member
Posts : 112 Sailboat : CM 26 Birthday : 1952-03-16 Join date : 2013-01-25 Age : 72 Job/hobbies : Telecommunications/Security/IT - Hobby Music
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:47 pm | |
| I thought I'd jump in here - my boat came with several 8 foot pieces of 1 1/2" PVC pipe that I believe the prior owner used to raise the mast. A mast raising series would be great!! terry s. | |
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countryboy Posting Member
Posts : 30 Sailboat : CM26 Birthday : 1969-11-10 Join date : 2013-06-03 Age : 55 Job/hobbies : truck driver
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:39 pm | |
| I too, *just* today found out how most of my rigging works. thanks to all the advice and pics in these topics, i can now say i understand how most of this works. My boat came with no 8 foot nothing, no pvc piping, no helpers, not even a holder for the mast. I'm having 2nd and 3rd thoughts here of raising this mast up. where the mast bolts on, i see that the bolt can travel about 3 inches vertical. my main worry is damaging the bottom of the mast while tipping this thing up, having it scrape on the metal bracket. am i just being a bit over cautious here? | |
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Triticum Lifetime Member
Posts : 167 Sailboat : Clipper Marine 26 Join date : 2012-10-27 Job/hobbies : IT
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:10 pm | |
| The geometry will prevent this. The bolt in the slots keep the bottom of the mast from doing damage. The biggest challenge for you is getting the force onto the mast to get it up. The A frame I have allows me to rig the ship single handed. yeah, it is a lot of work to get the mast up in the air because it is so long. The A frame makes the lift process very stable.
Ref: Follow the mast | |
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countryboy Posting Member
Posts : 30 Sailboat : CM26 Birthday : 1969-11-10 Join date : 2013-06-03 Age : 55 Job/hobbies : truck driver
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:31 pm | |
| do you just keep moving this a frame inching it to the bracket? | |
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Triticum Lifetime Member
Posts : 167 Sailboat : Clipper Marine 26 Join date : 2012-10-27 Job/hobbies : IT
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:58 pm | |
| The A frame has a bolt through the bottom of the poles. It goes through the mounting strap for the forward shroud on each side. I have a rope from the top to the bow chain plate and a bungie to the mid shroud. The result is a support about 8 feet above the deck for a pulley. I run a rope through the pulley to the mast where (with the mast bolted in the mast step) the mast rests on the back of the pop-top. When I start to pull, the base of the mast pivots. Since I am pulling on the mast several feet above the base I have some leverage.
Hmmm. Maybe I should see if I can do a video of this process. | |
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tlsallada Lifetime Member
Posts : 112 Sailboat : CM 26 Birthday : 1952-03-16 Join date : 2013-01-25 Age : 72 Job/hobbies : Telecommunications/Security/IT - Hobby Music
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:05 pm | |
| I video would be great!! Nothing Hollywood quality! terry s. | |
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countryboy Posting Member
Posts : 30 Sailboat : CM26 Birthday : 1969-11-10 Join date : 2013-06-03 Age : 55 Job/hobbies : truck driver
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:02 am | |
| you have no idea how much a video of that would help. im sure there is similar video's out there somewhere, but to see it on my exact boat, will be priceless. | |
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Triticum Lifetime Member
Posts : 167 Sailboat : Clipper Marine 26 Join date : 2012-10-27 Job/hobbies : IT
| Subject: Re: Rigging diagram wanted Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:40 pm | |
| Check out "follow the mast" | |
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